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Hi Lee!<br>
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Well, actually I use Eudora as my mail handler, never liked Outlook much...too many macros attacking it...as for back-ups, I back up my files once a week to a second computer, and have a third backup to my daughters computer. I have the past four years of emails tucked away this way, and thus am rarely ever in a situation where, by accident, I have not got a good backup that is more than a few days old. However I have found that every now and then Windows (I now have Windows 2000) blows up my data files, (just had that happen yesterday for the 1st time in about one year) and this also is the first time that Eudora did NOT have a good recovery of the main mail file (inbox). When I was using Netscape it crashed regularly and trashed the inbox as a matter of course. I do virus scan and never never never open attachments I wasn't expecting or are executables. My CD-Burner is down until I find my PCMCIA SCSI card (it went into hiding a month or so ago...) <br>
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John :-#)#<br>
<br>
At 04:50 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">Hmm.</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">You could back it up local (this is HTML) so I am assuming you are using Outlook?</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">If so, then you can create *.PST folders and back them up once a week with different</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">names on a CD burner (or rewritable) all the while keeping a working copy.</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">CD-ROM is VERY stable and it's hard to corrupt. You could then have an archive of</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">Email for years without using up too much room. Tons of utilities that on your PC that</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">would do this for you.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">While a Zip drive could be susceptible to corruption, it serves as a good alternative.</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">If you are NOT using Outlook - then your Email service is using some sort of file to keep</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">all this data live. Same reasoning applies.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">It also depends on how you are handling you Email - if you keep it on the server only</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">or local???</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">If I understood your architecture and services, I could come up with a cost effective</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">way of backing up critical data, while still have your ISP provide you with what you</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">need.</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">It may be as simple as buying an external drive and compressing that data to CD</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">every period (day, week, month) - that way if you ever had corruption, you can ALWAYS</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">go back to a recent copy with little loss. Also, if you EVER, come up with a data saving</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">solution (considered warehousing) - you have to take it off site (people always forget that).</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">They take the time to back up their most critical data (in case of emergencies) but leave</font><br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">it on site. A fire comes by and there goes all their records!</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">Something to consider:~)</font><br>
<br>
<dl><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From:</b> John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, March 02, 2001 4:37 PM
<dd>To:</b> Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject:</b> RE: Tempest U/R Arcade game<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Hmm, good point. How can I cover my email loss against protecting the site from hackers? I think the password I choose is pretty good (letters and other stuff-not a word). There is often about two to three megs of emails sitting on my server as a backup. Any suggestions?<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 04:33 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote:<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>OK - </font><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>That's like all the info anyone needs to get going.</font><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Info theft is big down here in CA (well I guess the whole</font><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>U.S).</font><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Thanks - I took it off this one.</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:30 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Tempest U/R Arcade game<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Hi Lee!<br>
<br>
<dd>About the server, this is on our flippers site, and I have it set to erase after three days incase of email crashes on my notebook computer. (S**t happens) No-one else has access to these messages...I'll see if I can delete the one with your address though...<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 04:17 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:09 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Tempest U/R Arcade game<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Hi Trevor!<br>
<br>
<dd>Thanks! I just got back in and see you have sent your CC #.
<dd>We need your shipping address, a couple of phone numbers (home and work) plus your Social Security Number (your US Customs folks want that for some strange reason...)<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 03:19 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Done - </font><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:19 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Tempest U/R Arcade game</font>
<dd>You can phone us @ 604-872-5757 9 - 5:30PM Pacific Coast Time Tuesday to Saturday...be happy to fax you a copy of the invoice.<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 01:05 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Oh,
<dd>I will call you and we can do the Visa/MC thing to make this easier. If you could fax me the
<dd>receipt (Trever Lee: fax 916.356.3854) when you are done with the transaction, I would
<dd>appreciate it.</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>I will do the remaining balance the same way.</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:45 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Tempest U/R Arcade game<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Hi Lee!<br>
<br>
<dd>Well, if you want to send a bank draft they are OK, as long as they are cashable outside of the USA. That's the 'International' bit, some money orders can't be. The Post Office for example has both domestic and International Money Orders and our banks here won't accept the domestic version.<br>
<br>
<dd>That's often why folks just use a credit card...did we ever work out the freight part of this transaction???<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 12:33 PM 02/03/2001, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Whoa,
<dd>I have been a busy boy here at work. My bank swears that if YOU need American
<dd>dollars, then this method should work - it works for everyone else, including the
<dd>IRS, my mortgage, all my bills, and the guy who mows my lawn.</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>It took me a long time just to find this last Email!!!! -
<dd>So do you feel comfortable with a (pre-paid) check or would you like to do a Visa/
<dd>MC instead?</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:33 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Well, let's try it out. I don't exactly know what you are talking about, but it should work, maybe...have you a web site I could see to get more info on this process?<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 03:34 PM 01/02/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Now I am confused. International???
<dd>Don't know. It's like writing a check. Except when YOU write a check - it has to be cashed.
<dd>Once it's cashed, the money then comes out of the account.
<dd>With online checking - I write a check - the money comes out 1st and backs the check JUST LIKE a money order. Then it get sent.
<dd>If this thing HAS to be international - we can
<dd>just do the MC/Visa, because I do not know.</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:11 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game</font>
<dd>Does that mean it gets mailed to the shop? It IS an INTERNATIONAL Money Order, right? Eh?<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 12:59 PM 01/02/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Oh,
<dd>no... It's online for me - fancy money order check for you.
<dd>I electronically write a check to the address you gave me, and a few days later it gets to you... Except it's money order format (doesn't have to clear like a regular check)!</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>I will use TrevLee-Tempest as the "account code" - I do this because it's safe, quick and NOTHING has to clear. Plus it's cash so there's no VISA/MC charge!!!
<dd>If you would rather I do it in MC/Visa let me know.</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:15 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game</font>
<dd>John's Jukes Ltd.
<dd>2343 Main Street,
<dd>Vancouver, BC
<dd>V5T 3C9
<dd>(604)872-5757
<dd>I don't know if you can do on-line banking to Canada-we don't have that set up with our bank for remote deposits. You are the first to ask to do this, most folks pay by VISA, M/C or AMEX or money orders. The price of $1535 is the cost in US$ easier for you to work with, hence it is the pricing on our site...
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 11:05 AM 01/02/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Well,
<dd>I do online checking and pay all my bills that way.
<dd>If you give me an address & account number/reference
<dd>#, I can have a check to you before Tuesday!</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Name (business)
<dd>Phone (business)
<dd>Account number
<dd>Address</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Then your personal name:</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Also, what about this American dollar vs. Canadian??? You
<dd>wrote $1535 US - I imagine this is converted? can't be that diff
<dd>anyway...</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:43 AM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game</font>
<dd>We do give you a 90 day warranty on the monitor and boards, unfortunately you have to send them to us for service, we don't make house calls to California, unless you are paying the air fare ;-).<br>
<br>
<dd>I don't have a secure site, phone is best for this, many folks have emailed their card numbers and no-one has had problems that I know of. But.<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 10:18 AM 01/02/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>I am very much close to Sacramento (ever heard of the infamous Folsom prison?)
<dd>Well it's down the street from my house; but you could never tell.</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Do you guys have a secure server for me to submit my card # or is it best to call???
<dd>I can get you the $200 today.</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>What type of guarantee is on that X-Y screen by chance? Also, since they can be
<dd>temperamental, is it recommended that you turn it off during no use? I have a UPS
<dd>for it already!!!!</font>
<dd> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:07 AM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game</font>
<dd>Hi Lee!
<dd>U/R means UpRight. Sorry for being cryptic. Are you near San Francisco? Thanks for the file info, I'll check them all out. I've tried a couple but they don't find the temp.<br>
<br>
<dd>Shipping and customs looks like it is $200US, boxing up is $40US and the game is $1295US. Total $1535US. VISA, M/C, AMEX or International Money Order. Non-refundable deposit of $200US will hold it.<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 09:30 AM 01/02/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Hmm,
<dd>a buddy told me about winfile - there's a share ware - http://hmonitor.hypermart.net/hmonpro.zip
<dd>Although this one may be what you are looking for http://www.online.de/home/podien/SMB.ZIP It's free!
<dd>This one is not: http://www.cs.aston.ac.uk/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/~tuttlepi/download.pl?ssb=exe</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>Not sure if you've tried any of these. But give them a look see! (all should be 95, 98, NT, 2000, & ME)</font>
<dd> <font face="Century Gothic, Avant Garde" size=2 color="#0000FF">
<dd>I am in Folsom CA, 95630. What's U/R mean?</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:03 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game</font>
<dd>Hi Lee!<br>
<br>
<dd>Yes, I still have the U/R Tempest...that price sounds good to me. What city are you in???<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>Oh, and you work at Intel...any idea of a simple bit of software to monitor a P3-700's temperature in a notebook?<br>
<br>
<dd>At 05:27 PM 31/01/2001 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dd>OK -
<dd>still got the Tempest game (in great condition)?
<dd>I have a deposit or full cash - would rather wait
<dd>till mid February for full transaction!<br>
<br>
<dd>During the month of February, we get all of our
<dd>bonuses for the year (3) - so that's why I had to
<dd>wait.
<dd>Again, I am looking for an upright Tempest game
<dd>which looks to costs:
<dd>$1295US game
<dd>$~200US shipping...?
<dd>$ ~40US boxing up...
<dd>or expected total of about $1530 (woo, I hope I
<dd>like it!!!) Me too!
<dd>Let me know if this sounds good, if you still have one
<dd>etc... And I will get you a deposit etc...<br>
<br>
<dd>Thanks,
<dd>Trever... <br>
<br>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:32 PM
<dd>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>Subject: RE: Arcade game<br>
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<dd>Hi Trevor!<br>
<br>
<dd>We are located in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Where is 95630? CA? Boxing up is
<dd>$40US, shipping to CA usually adds $175 - $225US to the price (including
<dd>customs in most cases). Our phone numbers are in the bottom of this message.<br>
<br>
<dd>The Upright is nicely restored, but has the reproduction Tempest overlay
<dd>with the typo error "Shootiing" on the instructions for the Pulsars. Not
<dd>very noticeable...
<dd>$500US deposit would hold it to early Feb. We do take major credit cards<br>
<br>
<dd>John :-#)#<br>
<br>
<dd>At 03:36 AM 04-01-01, Lee, Trever wrote:
<dd>>Wow,
<dd>>are they in excellent shape?
<dd>>I am looking at buying in late
<dd>>January, most likely February.
<dd>>
<dd>>Where are you located (as in
<dd>>shipping) my zip is 95630
<dd>>
<dd>>What would it take to hold one
<dd>>of those - upright?
<dd>>
<dd>>-----Original Message-----
<dd>>From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 7:24 PM
<dd>>To: Lee, Trever
<dd>>Subject: RE: Arcade game
<dd>>
<dd>>
<dd>>Hi Trevor!
<dd>>
<dd>>$50US is not a deposit for us...must be someone else. We do have the two
<dd>>Tempests in stock now, never did get around to eBaying them. The cocktail
<dd>>we are asking $1495US, and the upright is $1295US
<dd>>
<dd>>John :-#)#
<dd>>
<dd>>At 08:56 AM 03-01-01, Lee, Trever wrote:
<dd>> >I wrote you earlier last year regarding a tempest box. Are you the one
<dd>> >tat requires a $50 deposit to get a game?
<dd>> >
<dd>> >-----Original Message-----
<dd>> >From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>> >Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 4:10 PM
<dd>> >To: Lee, Trever
<dd>> >Subject: RE: Arcade game
<dd>> >
<dd>> >
<dd>> >Hi Trevor!
<dd>> >
<dd>> >Well, they look great, we do a full restoration on the machines-new
<dd>> >overlays, artwork touched up on sides good locks... As for problems we
<dd>can
<dd>> >service the logic boards at our shop if they are sent in, and the monitor
<dd>> >is pretty reliable, again it can be serviced here if the defective parts
<dd>> >are shipped in.
<dd>> >
<dd>> >John :-#)#
<dd>> >
<dd>> >At 05:48 AM 11/8/00, Lee, Trever wrote:
<dd>> > >Can you tell me what kind of state they will be in -
<dd>> > >-approximate price range
<dd>> > >-What do people generally do when there's an electronic problem???
<dd>> > >
<dd>> > >-----Original Message-----
<dd>> > >From: John Robertson [<a href="mailto:jrr@flippers.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:jrr@flippers.com</a>]
<dd>> > >Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 7:20 PM
<dd>> > >To: Lee, Trever
<dd>> > >Subject: Re: Arcade game
<dd>> > >
<dd>> > >
<dd>> > >We have two that will be heading to eBay in late Nov, early December...
<dd>> > >
<dd>> > >John :-#)#
<dd>> > >
<dd>> > >At 08:47 AM 11/7/00, Lee, Trever wrote:
<dd>> > > >I am looking for a tempest game...
<dd>> > > >Do you know where I can find one?????
<dd>>
<dd>>
<dd>> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
<dd>> Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
<dd>> http://www.flippers.com
<dd>> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."<br>
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<dd> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
<dd> Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
<dd> http://www.flippers.com
<dd> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."</blockquote>
<dd> John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
<dd> Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
<dd> http://www.flippers.com
<dd> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 <br>
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) <br>
http://www.flippers.com <br>
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
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