Re: FS: 5101RAM Replacements

Hi John,

    Well, I tried as best I could, but I couldn't get you a deal
like you wanted. We've spent so much time and money on
all these projects of late, that there is little or no room for
any discounts right now. Joel doesn't want to sell the PCBs
outright, either. He might sell the FerroRams in quantity in
the future, though. We really need to recover some costs on
what we've got now, in fact, increased supplier costs forces
us to raise the price on our TZ clock boards. The Pinultium
may rise in cost, as well.

    Sorry I can't dance with you John! =(

(I tried!)

Fred Kemper
TX
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Robertson" <jrr@flippers.com>
To: "Fred_K" <pbgarage@davlin.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: FS: 5101RAM Replacements

> Hi Fred!
>
> Up late?
>
> Yes, I'd like to see one of your prototypes, but let me confess, I would
be
> thinking of building my own...on the other hand, if you guys would sell
the
> bare unpopulated PCB, and I could join with you on ordering the MRAM for
a
> price break, then we could each cover our markets well. I would agree to
> sell them for the same price as you do (Price fixing oh, dear...;-).
>
> I think that it would be better to just plug the device into a socket,
> rather than solder the legs to the PCB. My experience with sub-boards that
> are soldered to the main board is a history of cracked traces. Gottlieb
> used this for a couple of years and it is very prone to problems. We have
> hundreds of pin headers that would be perfect for a double sided pins to
> solder to the mini-board, and the other is perfect to plug into a socket.
> These are for 40 pin devices, but could easily be cut up to suit the 22
pin
> devices here. Would you like me to send you a couple to play with?
>
> John :-#)#
>
> At 09:55 PM 09/03/2001, you wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >
> > I don't know if you received that price quote
> >on the kits or not. Did you want to try one first?
> > I can send you one of mine to evaluate if you
> >would like. I ran out here at the house, but I have
> >more coming my way.
> > Are you interested in the 5101 kit or the 6116
> >kit?
> >
> >LMK!
> >
> >Fred
> >=========================
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Robertson" <jrr@flippers.com>
> >To: "Fred Kemper" <pbgarage@davlin.net>
> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: FS: 5101RAM Replacements
> >
> >
> >Hi Fred!
> >
> >Very nice..using these guys product?
> >
> >http://www.ramtron.com/aboutfram/aboutfram.htm
> >
> >Might want to talk to you about these...there is a big market for this
> >product, I think.
> >
> >
> >John :-#)#
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:54:31 -0600, in rec.games.pinball you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > > Cool new product!
> > >
> > >Never replace CPU batteries again!
> > >Never worry about a corroded CPU board!
> > >This PBLiz product replaces the original
> > >5101 CMOS RAM and batteries with a small
> > >adapter circuit board and special ferro-magnetic
> > >RAM that requires no batteries to retain data
> > >
> > > $19.50 + shipping
> > >
> > >Pictures here: http://www.pbliz.com/id35.htm
> > >
> > >Thanks for looking!
> > >
> > >Fred
> > >TX
> > >
> > >***********************************************
> > > "We Iz The Liz."
> > >
> > > http://www.pbliz.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > (Please post followups or tech enquires to the newsgroup)
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> > Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
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>
Received on Wed Mar 14 08:18:56 2001