RE: [techtoolslist] Newbie on Fluke 9010A

From: Martin White <martin_at_guddler.com>
Date: Tue Oct 07 2003 - 10:18:26 EDT

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<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
James,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just
had a spare moment at work and was browsing through the code generated for the
Scramble example...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>One
albeit minor error in the ROM test sections, you display "ROM TEST" in the DPY
command, but "RAM TEST" in the aux command. Minor i know as the command sent to
the Fluke is "ROM TEST", but also a minor fix too i guess so figured i'd mention
it!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Also,
in the command "<FONT color=#000000 size=3><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>ROM test @
1000-17FF <FONT class=keyword>sig</FONT> 0" are we meant to fill the 0 in with
another value? I've not been using the Fluke in anger yet, so i'm not sure which
value should go in here. Is it the CRC that is generated for me by
FIDE?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT
color=#000000 size=3><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Were
there any other specific areas you had in mind when you said the&nbsp;script
probably wouldn't work without modification?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT
color=#000000 size=3><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=067171314-07102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT
color=#000000 size=3><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Martin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT></SPAN>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
  owner-techtoolslist@www.flippers.com
  [mailto:owner-techtoolslist@www.flippers.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James
  Bright<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 October 2003 03:40<BR><B>To:</B>
  techtoolslist@www.flippers.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [techtoolslist] Newbie
  on Fluke 9010A<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What you will
  probably find is that a lot of the concepts are transferable from game to
  game. For example, you&#8217;ll always want to test RAM and ROMs as they are the
  easiest to test and directly or indirectly cause a lot of faults. (Indirectly
  being that the RAM may be good, but a control line selecting the RAM is not&#8230;
  in which case you can isolate down the general area.)</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I&#8217;ve put my &#8220;intro&#8221;
  article on programming here:</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
  href="http://tech.quarterarcade.com/tech/Fluke/9010A/Scripting/IntroToScripts.aspx">http://tech.quarterarcade.com/tech/Fluke/9010A/Scripting/IntroToScripts.aspx</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As well as adding
  in program documentation to FIDE. (BTW, I have not posted FIDE on the site for
  download. No need to contact me anymore.)</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But you could start
  by just using the code generator that I was working on. For example, you could
  start with a Scramble script here:</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
  href="http://tech.quarterarcade.com/Tech/CodeGenerator/Default.aspx?g=2470&amp;set=scramble&amp;cpu=133">http://tech.quarterarcade.com/Tech/CodeGenerator/Default.aspx?g=2470&amp;set=scramble&amp;cpu=133</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(be sure to get all
  of that URL). That probably won&#8217;t run unmodified, but it would be a
  start.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now, what this does
  not buy you is specific chip testing like custom chips, 4116 hi/low nibble
  isolation, and so forth. But if you are just starting out, you&#8217;ll work up to
  that with time. </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, I am
  considering a code repository for game-specific 9010A if people will
  contribute. Worthwhile? Let me know. </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also, what I found
  to be a huge resource was the Fluke publications that John has hosted. I think
  they&#8217;re labeled as &#8220;Troubleshooter Guides.&#8221; They give very good techniques for
  debugging.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good luck learning
  it. I found that it took a good month to get real comfortable. Pick an easy
  starter board like Scramble as that makes learning easier as
  well.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">JB</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=maroon size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon">--James
  Bright<BR>www.QuarterArcade.com<BR>Restored Arcade Games for your Home
  </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
  owner-</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">techtoolslist@www.flippers.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT
  face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
  [mailto:owner-</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">techtoolslist@www.flippers.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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  <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
  </SPAN></B>pc2jamma<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
  Sunday, October 05, 2003 1:00 AM<BR><B><SPAN
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> techtoolslist<BR><B><SPAN
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [techtoolslist] Newbie on Fluke
  9010A</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello Guys !</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I just received my Fluke 9010A and my two Pods 8080
  and Z80AA.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I'm also using Fluke IDE Software, thanks to James,
  it's a wonderfull Software !</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does anyone have some 8080 or Z80 sample program for
  gamaes such as Scrambler, Space Invaders (Taito and Midway), or some other
  game ?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thank you very much, and soon I hope contribute with
  this list with some scripts and information about this great tool
  !</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">José Luiz
Martins</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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