Re: RASTER: M2716A-2F1 datasheet

I've never had a problem, but then I'm using an old Data I/O. That
thing never seems to have a problem.

Just yesterday we burned some using a newer Logical Devices X-Pro 5000
So far that's been a good little burner as well.

Kevin.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Matthew Rossiter <matt@rossiters.com> wrote:
> So, in continuing this discussion on techtoolslist - I found that I was only
> about to program a couple more 2716a's and the rest failed. Then I realized
> that sometimes I had to program them two or three times until they finally
> verified correctly. Has anyone else run into this issue?
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 1/31/2013 10:16 AM, Matthew Rossiter wrote:
>>
>> Oh Boy. Ok - so these all passed the blank check when they arrived. But
>> I thought, what the heck I'll run them through the UV eraser just to make
>> sure they're blank. Now I can program them.
>>
>> As Gilda Radner would say - Nevermind.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/31/2013 9:51 AM, Matthew Rossiter wrote:
>>>
>>> Well fortunately, these eproms have 21V written on the top of them so
>>> it's not hard to miss. I'm using a Dataman-48Pro+ where they give you the
>>> specs of a generic 2716A and yes it's set to program at 21v. I'm not sure
>>> if there's anything special about STMicro's. Normally what I do is try to
>>> find the datasheet, send it over to Dataman and they usually fix the
>>> problem. But I can't find a datasheet anywhere on the net.
>>>
>>> There's also the possibility I have some bad devices. :| I only did a
>>> quick search but I don't think the Data IO 29B does them either. I'll
>>> double check. I'd love to find a datasheet though.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2013 9:27 AM, John Robertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rodger Boots wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BE CAREFUL, 2716s program using 25 volts but what you have uses 21
>>>>> volts.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013 12:16 AM, "Matthew Rossiter" <matt@rossiters.com
>>>>> <mailto:matt@rossiters.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have the datasheet for the ST Microelectronics eprom
>>>>> M2716A-2F1? I bought them from Jameco but I can't seem to program
>>>>> them. They are fast 200ns eproms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Programming a 21V 2716A (that is what the "A" means) on a 25V programmer
>>>> will normally destroy the Eprom. This is also the difference between the
>>>> 2732 (25V) and 2732A (21V).
>>>>
>>>> If you can't find the exact manufacturer and part number on your list of
>>>> Eproms that came with your programmer then you MUST find out exactly what
>>>> the device needs and then determine what Eprom is closest to it so that its
>>>> algorithm will work before attempting to program it. the devices from the
>>>> 70s were very particular about voltages and timings, devices from the
>>>> mid-80s and later usually to have code inside them that the programmer can
>>>> recognize to figure out the programming voltage(s) required.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John :-#(#
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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