Re: Troubleshooting Star Wars

From: Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri Oct 11 2013 - 14:18:51 EDT

anyone know where I can get replacement dipswitches, mine are pretty
smashed on my SW CPU board, I should replace them...

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=157221

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd
<griffindodd@gmail.com>wrote:

> Also I double checked and compared both the upright and sit down
> harnesses. All the critical plugs and connectors have identical pins and
> voltages, just the physical size of the harnesses and the number of
> speakers is different.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Aye it's still a mystery.
>>
>> I can get Diag #1 for Game PCB Microprocessor and RAM to work by
>> grounding the self test tab on the main board, grounding the diag tab and
>> then turning on the power.
>>
>> The weird thing is that the the LEDs at CR4,5,6 do not stay on for 10
>> secs, they stay on for about 2 seconds and the 5 and 6 extinguish while 4
>> remains on flashing once a second. This only works if the AVG board is
>> disconnected from the wiring harness, otherwise all three lights go out
>> after about 2 seconds.
>>
>> Tried the sound board Diagnostic test and got no beeps or sound from the
>> speakers after reset.
>>
>> No matter what tests I perform I cannot seem to get the LEDs to stay on
>> the the 10 seconds they are supposed to during diagnosis.
>>
>> Other observations.
>>
>> With just the main board and sound board hooked up. Power on with no test
>> or diag grounded and all DIPs set to zero at 10D, the three LEDs light for
>> 2 seconds and then all go out. Reset on pin 37 is perm high at the CPU and
>> goes low when the reset tab is grounded. However IRQ is permanently low.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Douglas Gauck <douglas@gauck.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please double check:
>>>
>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/cockpitwiring.pdf
>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/uprightwiring.pdf
>>>
>>> I'd have just the brick, the AR2 and the main board hooked up for now.
>>> How's reset?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok mystery solved I had a plug out in the center of the harness.
>>>
>>> I have 11.9v on my 10.3v.
>>>
>>> Leds are randomly going on and off clciking the coin counter
>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. So the black and orange go to the center pin of 15 brick. On the
>>>> female side they turn into two white and orange leads. Each one goes to a
>>>> three pin plug where only two pins are used and the wires are bridged with
>>>> what looks like a diode. One plug goes to the coin counter the other one is
>>>> empty
>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:53 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That would be J40. It plugs into P40 (on a loose connector that goes
>>>>> to power supply in bottom of cabinet).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have nothing on e and 18 dead as a dead dodo that died. That orange
>>>>>> and black wire looks like it goes to a 9 pin connector block with no home.
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:42 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comes to game board on connector pins E & 18.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have GOT to find a better scan of the schematics, what I have is
>>>>>>> nearly unreadable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So.... I have no 10.3vun at the test tab on the game board. Does
>>>>>>>> that come from the ar2 via the edge connector or is it stepped down from
>>>>>>>> one of the higher voltage feeds on the board?
>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 6:17 AM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The trouble shooting guide says you can remove the soundboard to
>>>>>>>>> do these tests
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 4:25 AM, "Douglas Gauck" <douglas@gauck.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really? I had my main board on the bench all by itself. What it
>>>>>>>>>> did need was the 10.3 (in fact I hooked up all voltages -5, +5, +10.3 and
>>>>>>>>>> +12)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rodger Boots <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reset not going to work without sound board.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interconnects are good. No I didn't have the sound board
>>>>>>>>>>> installed during these tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:25 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reset comes indirectly through sound board. Do you have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound board installed and are interconnect cables in good shape?
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:07 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All my clocks test good on my oscilloscope the only one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't found a test point for is 1.5mhz where is that point.? Got a solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mhz at E and Q though at the cpu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:05 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Start looking for where these come from and work your way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back. You did check for missing/broken crystal, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:00 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep both still low with CPU removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 8:55 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could be, remove the CPU and see if they are still low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That will tell you if it is the CPU or the board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 10:50 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys. Troubleshooting my non booting star wars board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked all my voltages and clicks they look good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firq, NMI and halt are all high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However reset is permanently low as is Irq at the CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas where to go from here? Bad CPU?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm following the star wars troubleshooting guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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