Re: Troubleshooting Star Wars

From: Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri Oct 11 2013 - 18:11:09 EDT

ok good to know thanks

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Franklin Bowen
<Franklin@franklinbowen.net>wrote:

> I think you can adjust the +5V on the ARII. The 10.3 is unregulated so
> unless its SIGNIFICANTLY off, don't worry about it. 12 is fine, I have
> read reports of 15 and I think even 18 in a functional game!
>
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> On Oct 11, 2013, at 12:05, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to tweak the voltage on my main CPU board for my +5v, -5v
> and 10.3VUN lines? All my 5's are measuring 4.9v and my 10.3VUN is coming
> in around 12v right now, how can I up the 5's while reducing the 10.3?
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> While I'm shopping, is this a suitable replacement for the 68B09E
>> Microprocessor?
>>
>> http://www.twistywristarcade.com/processors-40-pin-ics/101-68b09-mpu.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Franklin Bowen <
>>> Franklin@franklinbowen.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.twistywristarcade.com/39-buttons-switches
>>>>
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>>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:18, Joel Griffin Dodd <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> anyone know where I can get replacement dipswitches, mine are pretty
>>>> smashed on my SW CPU board, I should replace them...
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=157221
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also I double checked and compared both the upright and sit down
>>>>> harnesses. All the critical plugs and connectors have identical pins and
>>>>> voltages, just the physical size of the harnesses and the number of
>>>>> speakers is different.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aye it's still a mystery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get Diag #1 for Game PCB Microprocessor and RAM to work by
>>>>>> grounding the self test tab on the main board, grounding the diag tab and
>>>>>> then turning on the power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The weird thing is that the the LEDs at CR4,5,6 do not stay on for 10
>>>>>> secs, they stay on for about 2 seconds and the 5 and 6 extinguish while 4
>>>>>> remains on flashing once a second. This only works if the AVG board is
>>>>>> disconnected from the wiring harness, otherwise all three lights go out
>>>>>> after about 2 seconds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried the sound board Diagnostic test and got no beeps or sound from
>>>>>> the speakers after reset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter what tests I perform I cannot seem to get the LEDs to stay
>>>>>> on the the 10 seconds they are supposed to during diagnosis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other observations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With just the main board and sound board hooked up. Power on with no
>>>>>> test or diag grounded and all DIPs set to zero at 10D, the three LEDs light
>>>>>> for 2 seconds and then all go out. Reset on pin 37 is perm high at the CPU
>>>>>> and goes low when the reset tab is grounded. However IRQ is permanently low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Douglas Gauck <douglas@gauck.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please double check:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/cockpitwiring.pdf
>>>>>>> http://www.gauck.com/arcade/SW/uprightwiring.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd have just the brick, the AR2 and the main board hooked up for
>>>>>>> now. How's reset?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok mystery solved I had a plug out in the center of the harness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have 11.9v on my 10.3v.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leds are randomly going on and off clciking the coin counter
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <griffindodd@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok. So the black and orange go to the center pin of 15 brick. On
>>>>>>>> the female side they turn into two white and orange leads. Each one goes to
>>>>>>>> a three pin plug where only two pins are used and the wires are bridged
>>>>>>>> with what looks like a diode. One plug goes to the coin counter the other
>>>>>>>> one is empty
>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:53 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That would be J40. It plugs into P40 (on a loose connector that
>>>>>>>>> goes to power supply in bottom of cabinet).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have nothing on e and 18 dead as a dead dodo that died. That
>>>>>>>>>> orange and black wire looks like it goes to a 9 pin connector block with no
>>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:42 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Comes to game board on connector pins E & 18.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have GOT to find a better scan of the schematics, what I have
>>>>>>>>>>> is nearly unreadable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So.... I have no 10.3vun at the test tab on the game board.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that come from the ar2 via the edge connector or is it stepped down
>>>>>>>>>>>> from one of the higher voltage feeds on the board?
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 6:17 AM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The trouble shooting guide says you can remove the soundboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do these tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 4:25 AM, "Douglas Gauck" <douglas@gauck.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? I had my main board on the bench all by itself. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it did need was the 10.3 (in fact I hooked up all voltages -5, +5, +10.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and +12)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rodger Boots <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reset not going to work without sound board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Joel Griffin Dodd <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interconnects are good. No I didn't have the sound board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed during these tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:25 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reset comes indirectly through sound board. Do you have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound board installed and are interconnect cables in good shape?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:07 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All my clocks test good on my oscilloscope the only one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't found a test point for is 1.5mhz where is that point.? Got a solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mhz at E and Q though at the cpu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 9:05 PM, "Rodger Boots" <rlboots2@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Start looking for where these come from and work your way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back. You did check for missing/broken crystal, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 11:00 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep both still low with CPU removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 8:55 PM, "Rodger Boots" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rlboots2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could be, remove the CPU and see if they are still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low. That will tell you if it is the CPU or the board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013 10:50 PM, "Joel Griffin Dodd" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> griffindodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys. Troubleshooting my non booting star wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> board set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked all my voltages and clicks they look good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firq, NMI and halt are all high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However reset is permanently low as is Irq at the CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas where to go from here? Bad CPU?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm following the star wars troubleshooting guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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