RE: How does this sound as a group project??? (Longish)

From: Paul Sommers <Paul.Sommers_at_cwo.com.au>
Date: Thu May 18 2000 - 19:07:06 EDT

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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">Mike Ranger has sent me a big long post of the various sections and troubleshooting he does (and it works for the Williams boards he fixes).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">I'm going to try and make a start on the weekend and when I have a format for each section I'll post the section to the list for feedback and additional information (unless the majority of people here don't want me to - LMK because the initial response was much lower than I expected - maybe it belongs on RGVAC).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">I have a couple of broken boards boards lined up to test the information on. Kind of Troubleshooting for Dummies.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">Thanks for the encouragement.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">Paul</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">*please* do this :)&nbsp; I'd absolutely love to see this in place.&nbsp; I know</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">it's not needed but I have web space I could put it up on if someone put</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">it together...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">--- saint</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">On Wed, 17 May 2000, Paul Sommers wrote:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Gang,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Last night someone dropped off a Stargate boardset for me to have a go a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; repairing. As I don't really know what I'm doing I always set their</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; expectations that they may get it back still broken.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; I sat down with the info from Dave Langley's website (in particular The</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Ranger Chronicles) and within an hour had fixed the boardset.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; That type of repair makes my week - especially when you consider I knew</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; nothing about electronics when I started this just over 2 years ago.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Feeling pretty good I turned back to my Berzerk, and now the moving garbage</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; I had when I powered down last night has gone back to static garbage.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; I poked and prodded for a while using the Duck Hunting method (shoot at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; anything that moves - you're bound to hit something) and realised quickly I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; was completely lost.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Took a break and it really hit me what my particular problem was - and maybe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; other people are experiencing this, although I realise there is an awful</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; high level of expertise on this list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; While the books I read can teach me what a NAND gate is, and Kev has written</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; an excellent Logic Probe FAQ, and there is a ton of help out there (you guys</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; have no idea how many games you have brought back to life in Australia)...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; I don't have a troubleshooting methodology.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Or at least it stops at a certain point (check voltages &amp; connections,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; reseat chips, verify roms).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; I thought it might be a good resource (and I volunteer to collate and put it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; all together as I can offer little technical skills and would benefit</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; greatly) if we all contribute to a methodology for newbies or the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; inexperienced.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; So after the obvious above - where do you go next? The CPU? What should you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; be looking for? Should you see different signals on different CPU's?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; This should be very generic but we can concentrate on maybe Z80, 6502,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; 6809...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Then maybe we could move onto the ROMS - how to check the roms are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; functioning correctly...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Or maybe someone has this in a book specific to videogame troubleshooting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; and we don't do this at all. Or maybe we should move this to RGVAC?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Your thoughts?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; Paul</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Monaco">&gt; </FONT>
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